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@clare but the books wouldn't be so good if they were "normal" men connie is the master of creating that we love or even love to hate lol

Yeah, that is a seperate issue. Fact is we wouldn't hate the actions of some in the book if we didn't love the books to begin with, the fact that Connie can evoke a whole range of emotions from her readers is definitely one of the reasons we love the books.

However that doesn't mean the characters get a pass in my mind, that doesn't track. We judge the characters based on their actions, not plot and character growth mechanics. saying, well I still like Griffin, Connie just made him do that stuff to advance the plot and give the protagonist obstacles, doesn't really work, at least for me.

And I don't think Griffin ever intended to really harm anybody. He's not BAD, he just makes bad decisions from time to time, but in the end he just wants to make the future a tad better. (Although I have to admit those decisions are sometimes selfish.)

@frazled of course I like being pampered but that is not pampering where I come from. I suspect that it might be a US thing, the way the guys talk to women (the nice ones) come across as slimy, tbh most women I know would slap or avoid men like that. Being called "little girl" to a woman is nothing but patronising and all the grabbing really creepy in the extreme. Most women in the UK would not respond positively to men like that and would certainly not tolerate the others. I have noticed though in my travels that men are extremely different in different countries so it wouldn't surprise me if it was just a case of the men acting more US due to the author being from there. It would be nice though if the English ones acted that way and the European ones. I must admit that I had a few giggles with the welsh werewolf in one of the Lissa books, I forget which one it was. He was supposedly from Wales but the words were Yorkshire and then at a later point he started using Irish slang, at no point did his words appear Welsh. Aedan was similar for a while until it was mentioned he had many accents.

@ Larry and others. I've read every book numerous times, I obviously like the characters and as I've said in the past on these forums, any good story needs characters we don't like In Order to make them good, they add balance. Don't interpret disliking a character as meaning I want them removed or wish they were different. Disliking a character is no different to liking one... The writer has obviously managed to create a character with enough depth to provoke a reaction from the reader. Disliking a character with that In mind should be as complimentary as liking one. There are a few male characters that I don't find slimy/creepy or nasty, just to try and keep the peace ill name a few. Corent, Cheedas, Rylend, Erland, Ashe, Trajan, Trace, Roff (after becoming vampire), Winkler, heck too many but you get the idea. Just don't feel the need to defend them, there is nothing to defend against, no one is attacking, I just find some creepy and others domineering pigs.

Curly One wrote: I'm excited to see whether they can defeat Acrimus or at least chase him away for a while, since he's very strong.
Possible that Strength and Wisdom take Bree back. Ashe did it already for Lissa once. I also think Wisdom is the one who slammed Bree against the wall.

Curly you screwed up! Sorry old boy.
Acrimus is the lowly lieutenant, he was a ko'Ahmari and is lower in power than Breanne.
Breanne was killed by the general.

I have a theory may I dare to spit it out?
Well I'll do it anyway.

I think there might have been 4 Mightys in the beginning.
3 stayed loyal to the First One and 1 (general) went very bad!
However I can't deliver any evidence for this right now.

I know its a crazy theory! So what do you think?

Interesting theory, not sure it could be right though as all of the "stories" that have been told have always, without fail regarded The One and The Three. The main purpose of The Three was to combat the, well for want of a better term, other side. This would imply that the General is exactly that, a general for the other side. I seem to recall that the term general was just what he decide they could call him as something was needed. I'm guessing that he is simply one of the more powerful members of the other side, perhaps an equivalent to the Three, but nothing more. I suppose in time we will find out but I would have thought that we would have read some sort of indication by now if there had been more than three mighty, but, you can never tell! it would certainly be a twist but there again Connie normally at least plants seeds in earlier books for twists.